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it. It's actually way easier to think about it on paper first with people that have expertise in different aspects of what you're trying to do, 'cause they can debug

it really fast and can save you a whole bunch of time. So I started arranging for meetings with every high-level executive I could get to call me back and

basically, I think in three months later Kofi Annan, the then head of the United Nations unveiled my hand-soldered prototype with $ laptop at the United Nations Summit on the digital divide. And at that point there after, almost every

head of state on earth wanted the laptops en mass through the ministries of education in their countries to distribute to the children like text books. And so

that was enough at that point to show sales and marketing for the manufacturers who had You can't do that with hardware 'cause there's this

fundamental thing about hardware. It seems obvious when I say it. You can't change it after you ship it, can't. And that means the way you structure the

design and development is quite different. And so that I think is a hard thing for the, I mean they're great, I had a great time there, it was great. Really nice after

all those tough, Japan days and Taipei. I was very very grateful to Google and thank you for letting me pay off my